"but is it time for a general move of all who truly love Him into the Promised Land?"
Excellent observation, Cindy. I am thinking the same thing, as I come across scores of people who are eager for an organic relationship with Jesus and…
I just read Miguel's question...
I believe Frank Viola has said that you cannot turn the organization into organic. There is too much inherent in the system that fights against the very nature of organic. That is why the proposal in the organic…
I'm glad the Frank Viola quote is in there, because I would have recommended it if it wasn't. I have found his *experienced*explanation to be one of the best/easiest to present for people to understand.
But in a sense, you could answer…
I would have to agree with Cindy, Larry. I assumed from your post that you were new in the journey of finding Christ alone outside of the confines of the IC, and that you weren't aware of the more teachings that have come out from those who…
Well. The answer to "where we go from here" is, now read Reimagining, From Eternity, and Finding Organic, Franks next three books in his series. They will answer that guestion for you (if you have not read them already that is). Welcome to…
or... I see that you know Paul Childs. Paul knows how to get in touch with Rick Gall. I think Rick will be with a organic-style meetUp this Sunday at Panera Bread on Howe and Northrop: 901 Howe Avenue. If you catch that one, let me know how…
That and the 'comfortable christianity' you can find in the IC...the larger the group, the easier it is for you to hide and not get confronted about your Spirituality, your growth, your walk, etc.
In my old IC, the "two-winged…
I realized this same thing in my own 'home group'. We set off doing a study of something, but as time went on, we ended up meeting each week, chatting about our week, and getting to know each other. Since I was on the 'leadership…
>>we need to stop thinking about what i9s supposed to take place when we gather and learn to gather because we love and need each other.<<
Sound like the meaning of organic ! ;)
Cindy is correct, we should be able to use our gifts. Rather, WE SHOULD BE USING OUR GIFTS. That's why they were given to us, that is why the Holy Spirit is manifest within us.
But, our group faces the same issue. The homeowner and myself have…
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or... I see that you know Paul Childs. Paul knows how to get in touch with Rick Gall. I think Rick will be with a organic-style meetUp this Sunday at Panera Bread on Howe and Northrop: 901 Howe Avenue. If you catch that one, let me know how it's blessed by God?
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I don't know of any books off the top of my head, but I know they're out there.
One place to start is the following link:
Tithing Article
I'll find some more resources to share with you as time allows.
DM
Very interesting. If you know of some book or material that dives a little deeper into the subject, I would appreciate it. Send my a message if you know of anything.
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Michael,
I certainly understand what you're saying. Very few ministers ever speak the TRUTH about the tithe.
In OT times, the tithe was the inheritance of the Levites who were not allowed to make a living by any means as was common among the…
Jossimar, bienvenido al blog de MHI, espero que aqui encuentres informacion relevante sobre como desarrollar discipulos, lideres e iglesias utilizando una proceso estrategico simple/organico. Bendiciones!
I have seen a lot of sermons on the tithing, or giving; some of them very strange. I remember some time a go when my adult daughter was a teen, and going through a very difficult time, was being hauled off in a police car. We called the pastor…
yes, Quite true. "Doing Church" in house with out the Organic content, is just switching buildings. We as people tend to compartmentalize areas of our life. Church in this part, school in this part, marriage in this part,…
Amen to that.
It's also of interes that those who had, for example, only nine lambs or calves born in a year, they were not required to hand over anything.
One thing I will say is that I thoroughly appreciate the OT system of…
You're so right, Darrell! Many of the house churches I'm familiar with are not organic expressions of church but are really just institutional church in miniature. As Frank Viola says, organic church (OC) is one of the most…
When I think about the most significant points in my Christian walk, they did not take place in an organized, institutionalized environment. It was incidental to my world, but wholly intentional by God.
Sure, it's intentional. God is responsible for the Results, we are responsible for the action. God asks us to share our lives, talk to others about him, love others. Who gets saved, or what a person does or does not do or what…