"Hi JZ,
I appreciate your thoughtful explanations. It seems to come down to at least these two things: 1) Make sure the church is identifying with the Jesus of the scripture, and 2) make sure we are ministering to the needs of others.
The first of…"
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Jason Zhang commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Hi brother,
I also have not had a lot of experience, but it is helpful to put our heads together and keep exploring. I would point out that there is not an organic movement (Frank Viola has an article which addresses this) because lots of different…"
Sean Mauer commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Hi J,
I'm beginning to entertain the possibility that I have not had enough experiences within the organic movement. Thus far I have only experienced two house churches both of which were bring-your-own-Jesus types i.e. Knowing Christ…"
Jason Zhang commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Sean,
First of all, I have never been to an 'ideal Violian event'. I have been to a conference of his, but this was not a church meeting. I do agree that good teaching is vital to the life of the church, but what has been missing is the…"
Sean Mauer commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Jason,
I much appreciate your agreement with the out-reach, and as it were, offensive dynamics in the role of the church. Now having said that, what do you see as the functions of the organic church as it pertains to those aspects that would seem to…"
Jason Zhang commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Sean,
Yes, the plastic flower analogy is good because of the artificialness of the programs and services. Of course, that can happen in a home too. Flowers are not the only thing which is organic. Some organic things live very long and take a long…"
Sean Mauer commented on Jason Zhang's blog post Why am I passionate about organic church?"Jason, sticking with the flower motif -
One could see the institutional church as the plastic flower factory. Plastic flowers look good, but they don't give off a fragrance and they just sit there collecting dust. Real flowers are very dynamic,…"
Jason Zhang commented on Jason Zhang's blog post The use of 'tongues' in the organic church"Hi Mark,
Thanks for your comment and willingness to talk about this. I am also open to all gift of the Spirit. I think this topic of tongues often gets of into two unhelpful areas. Rather than asking, "What do the passages on tongues/languages…"
Mark Collings commented on Jason Zhang's blog post The use of 'tongues' in the organic church"You both present some interesting and valid views. As a charismatic, I am open to all gifts of the spirit. Tongues has always been a gift that presents some conflicting viewpoints. If someone speaks in another tongue and I cannot…"
Jason Zhang commented on Miguel's blog post 10 Must learn Phrases for Making Converts instead of Making Disciples"Wow! Not sure whether to laugh or cry. Did you come up with all those on your own? (besides #10 of course)."
Jason Zhang commented on Sean Mauer's blog post A Short Introduction and Background"Sean,
You made me laugh out loud when I read the part about me! I am blessed to know you and have learned a whole lot from you too! Let's just say we are disciples of Jesus who like to challenge each other too! When you say that you don't…"
Jason Zhang commented on Jason Zhang's blog post The use of 'tongues' in the organic church"Hi Kenny,
Sorry it has taken me so long to post your comment! My ability to get online right now has been very limited due to where I live.
Thank you for taking the time to read what I wrote and you are right--tongues is not the ability to be…"
Jason Zhang posted a blog postThe use of 'tongues' in the organic church
I was raised in a charismatic church and attempted to speak in tongues on several occasions. It always seemed very forced and fake to me, but I did not question the teaching until I went to college. I went to a cessationist school where I was forced to wrestle with the Scriptures on this issue. I became very frustrated because I found that I agreed with neither camp once I read the Scriptures for myself, however, I did not know what to say about tongues. I kept searching and eventually found an…See More
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Posted on March 3, 2011 at 12:30pm 4 Comments 0 Likes
I was raised in a charismatic church and attempted to speak in tongues on several occasions. It always seemed very forced and fake to me, but I did not question the teaching until I went to college. I went to a cessationist school where I was forced to wrestle with the Scriptures on this issue. I became very frustrated because I found that I agreed with neither camp once I read the Scriptures for myself, however, I did not know what to say about tongues. I kept searching and eventually found…
Continue Why am I passionate about organic church?
Posted on February 14, 2011 at 1:57am 8 Comments 0 Likes
Why am I passionate about organic church even though I have never been a part of one (not counting visiting)?
The reason I have joined this site is to connect with and mutually encourage others who are thinking similarly and value similar things (see blog post: A little about me—in case you are curious). If you want to know my heart, look at the picture I have posted with my name (I love photography): it pictures one plant out of which grow many shoots out of which grow many leaves…
Continue A little about me--in case you are curious
Posted on February 10, 2011 at 4:00am 3 Comments 0 Likes
My name is Jason but my last name is not really Zhang and I am not Chinese, but since I am currently living in a sensitive area of the world I thought it best not to use my real last name or a picture of myself.
I was born in Delaware in the US in the late 70s. I grew up in institutional churches, went to Bible college in the Philadelphia area and lived in Philadelphia for several years after graduation still connected to an institutional church. God used an advertisement for a free…
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- At 1:59am on March 18, 2011, Sean Mauer said…
- Thanks, I just posted my first intro blog.
- At 7:17am on February 14, 2011,
Marie Whitehead said… - I don't know of any in my area. I am attending a small house church but it is not an organic church. All I am aware of is a Simple Church in NE Philly and a group of people meeting monthly to establish more simple churches. I haven't looked at them as it is not the direction I feel called to.
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Jo Lynne Deaver left a comment for Richard Kozlowski"Richard,
Welcome to the family of Organic Church Today. As you connect to other believers in Christ, I'm sure you will be edified. Be Blessed in your walk of faith.
In Christ,
Jo Lynne"
Jo Lynne Deaver left a comment for Loretta Rodrigues"Loretta,
Thanks for sharing. I have been a Christian since 1985. I guess that would be 27 years. About a year and a half ago I started questioning why I believed some of things I had been taught. In the last 6 months or so I also have read…"
Jonathon Baer replied to Jo Lynne Deaver's discussion Don't Limit Opportunities"I had hoped what I said made sense. Sometimes I don't articulate what I'm trying to communicate. Nothing is to be construed as to limit what the Holy Spirit can and will do since he is like the wind. It is not for us to always understand…"
Loretta Rodrigues left a comment for Jo Lynne Deaver"Hi Jo Lynne, Thanks for your warm welcome. I've been a Christian ( I was raised a catholic ) for the last 7-8 years and attended a NT (Pastor led) church for about a year. My husband is an unbeliever and rabidly so! He…"
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Beyond institutional church, beyond organic house church, beyond any form, the Church is destined to walk in the power of Kingdom communities.Brothers and sisters will be gathering from Missouri, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee and Mississippi to share in fellowship and here the Gospel of the Kingdom.For details, email contact@theforerunnerministry.netSee More
Maegan Verrett left a comment for Jo Lynne Deaver"Thanks for your comment, Jo Lynne! I'm hoping to find some others like myself here in NE. It's quite lonely being the only one around. I've got my parents, but it's just not the same. You know? Thanks again! Have a great…"
Jo Lynne Deaver left a comment for Loretta Rodrigues"Welcome Loretta,
Love connecting with the body of Christ all over the world! Looking forward to your contributions to the body!
In Christ,
Jo Lynne"
Jo Lynne Deaver left a comment for Maegan Verrett"Welcome Maegan,
Hope you enjoy being a part of OCT. Be blessed in the Lord!
In Christ,
Jo Lynne"
Jo Lynne Deaver replied to Jo Lynne Deaver's discussion Don't Limit Opportunities"Jonathon,
Thanks for your reply. You are an encouraging and confirming voice. What you said was very much needed. I too had been told in the past that a person could be "so heavenly minded you're no earthly good.' But that…"
Jonathon Baer replied to Jo Lynne Deaver's discussion Don't Limit Opportunities"To address your first paragraph: I, too, have been somewhat dismayed to see very little activity and interaction with this excellent medium. Kenny put a lot into this and it is a shame it isn't maximized.
Second paragraph: Simply: Be ready,…"
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