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The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Mike Warren Jun 10, 2010. 62 Replies 0 Likes
Mike Warren and I have written two new essays critiquing the organic church movement. The focus of my essay is to review the biblical concept of the church against the backdrop of popular organic…Continue
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Mike Warren replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Here's an interesting interpretation of 1 Corinthians 14 that has played an important role in history in the spread of the Protestant church and in the growth of the maturity of its leaders:…
Rod replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Darren, Locally I'm involved in both. though it may be a bit crazy. I see organic things in my institutional group and have "organic moments" with some there and I see some of the things seen in institutional churches in the…
Darin Struble replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Rod,
It's been awhile since I've swam in the pool known as "The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue" Frankly, it was more tiring than enlightening or productive for me (please don't anybody blow that…
Rod replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Sermons give clergymen something to do that seems useful. That sitting in church and listening to them would become the central focus of churches. Viola points out that churches are structured for that hour or two once a week. Viola suggests that…
Mike Warren replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Rod, thanks for taking the time to read my essay.
Even if Jesus did not cover all those subjects at one sitting, the text does say that He sat down on the mount and gave a monologue. But I don't see a good reason to say that He didn't…
Rod replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Mike I couldn't get to your site. In reading Warren's piece I wanted to comment about sermons. Warren uses the "sermon" on the mount and Paul's overnight talking to validate sermon giving. I feel much could be said about the…
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Zens begins his discussion with some pointed comments criticizing the one-man-show church model we see in some unhealthy churches. He rightly points out how erroneous and dangerous it is to put all your faith in a man or a pastor rather than in…
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
I cannot find it. Is it a podcast? Where do I find it, because the link just takes me to the home page.
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Jonathon - For whatever reason you have chosen not to clarify your views and beliefs in specificity regarding the questions I submitted. I did that to give you the benefit of the doubt and make it less likely that I would misinterpret your views.…
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Jonathon - I think I see where this is going, but I'll trust that you're eventually going to make a few points about organic church. Let me make sure I am following what you are saying. To do that I hope you don't mind providing…
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Jonathon - I appreciate your comments and focus upon what the Father is doing, which is pretty amazing and diverse given everything going on across the globe. Revelation 19:10 says "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said to me, See…
Russ W replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Peace & Grace to you as well Jeff
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Russ - Thanks for sharing the document. There are numerous parts of it that I do like. We've already debated our differences, so I won't bring that up redundantly. I would never question your heart. Be blessed. JD
Russ W replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Jeff,
I would encourage you (to see where my heart is) go here to read through the beliefs an vision I and the Elders I am in covenant with hold. You will see that indeed there is a call for leadership based upon the teaching of Christ and the…
Jeff Dwiggins replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
The link to my essay does not work as I inadvertently let my domain with GoDaddy expire. My site now ends in .net instead of .com. The new link is as follows:…
Russ W replied to Jeff Dwiggins's discussion 'The Organic Church Movement - Real Fruit or Simply Going Rogue?'
Mike,
I answered the question you asked - I gave the answer in regard to the scriptures you quoted - one must not merely quote a single scripture, rather what led up to that statement and what followed.
Should I study the Word deeper? Of course I…
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Very interesting. If you know of some book or material that dives a little deeper into the subject, I would appreciate it. Send my a message if you know of anything.
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Darrell Meeks replied to Darrell Meeks's discussion 'Tithe-Whipped'
Michael,
I certainly understand what you're saying. Very few ministers ever speak the TRUTH about the tithe.
In OT times, the tithe was the inheritance of the Levites who were not allowed to make a living by any means as was common among the…
Marvin Lorenzana left a comment for Jossimar Diaz-Castro
Jossimar, bienvenido al blog de MHI, espero que aqui encuentres informacion relevante sobre como desarrollar discipulos, lideres e iglesias utilizando una proceso estrategico simple/organico. Bendiciones!
Michael Hartson replied to Darrell Meeks's discussion 'Tithe-Whipped'
I have seen a lot of sermons on the tithing, or giving; some of them very strange. I remember some time a go when my adult daughter was a teen, and going through a very difficult time, was being hauled off in a police car. We called the pastor…
Michael Hartson replied to Joshua Westcott's discussion 'Challenges of the Small Town'
yes, Quite true. "Doing Church" in house with out the Organic content, is just switching buildings. We as people tend to compartmentalize areas of our life. Church in this part, school in this part, marriage in this part,…
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Darrell Meeks replied to Darrell Meeks's discussion 'Tithe-Whipped'
Amen to that.
It's also of interes that those who had, for example, only nine lambs or calves born in a year, they were not required to hand over anything.
One thing I will say is that I thoroughly appreciate the OT system of…
Catherine Seebald replied to Joshua Westcott's discussion 'Challenges of the Small Town'
You're so right, Darrell! Many of the house churches I'm familiar with are not organic expressions of church but are really just institutional church in miniature. As Frank Viola says, organic church (OC) is one of the most…
Michael Hartson commented on Jim London's blog post 'What do we do when there is no group to join?'
When I think about the most significant points in my Christian walk, they did not take place in an organized, institutionalized environment. It was incidental to my world, but wholly intentional by God.
Michael Hartson replied to Michael Hartson's discussion 'Why Can't Christian's Hang Out?'
Sure, it's intentional. God is responsible for the Results, we are responsible for the action. God asks us to share our lives, talk to others about him, love others. Who gets saved, or what a person does or does not do or what…
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